Truly, he had not exaggerated the resources of the library; for the long shelves were overcrowded with books, and many volumes were piled high on the tables or stacked in corners. There were rolls of papyrus, of parchment, of vellum...Or: How often are these three materials listed together, in exactly that order? (Read the whole story here, if you like; recommended.)
2014-04-10
Papyrus, Parchment, Vellum
Gygax identified three permitted materials for the manufacture of magic scrolls -- papyrus at 2gp/sheet, parchment at 4gp, and vellum at 8gp, with respectively increasing chances of success for each (AD&D DMG, p. 117). How likely do you think it is that he was inspired by this line from Clark Ashton Smith's "The End of the Story" (actually the first in the Averoigne cycle of short stories):
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Good find. In addition to being pleasing to the ear in that order, 'papyrus, parchment and vellum' are also in aphabetical order.
ReplyDeleteI remember discovering that some of the tables in the DMG and other 1e books were, if I remember right, almost word for word the same as certain entries in Roget's Thesaurus... although it's been several years since I've seen my copy of Roget's so please double check me on that. I seem to remember that the 'level titles' in the AD&D books (Theurge, Adept, Sorceror, etc.) also appeared to be drawn from Roget's.
Very nice, I never thought of that before. (Although I wrote at least one song in college that was basically iterations on a certain word like that.)
DeleteInterestingly, the AD&D 2e DMG changes the material from scrolls, replacing vellum with paper, and putting it before the others so they are still in alphabetic order.
ReplyDeleteI vaguely remember that. So much less evocative.
DeleteUnfortunately Gygax wasn't influenced directly by Smith, since he hadn't read him yet when D&D was published (and didn't in fact read him until c. 1980; see Kuntz's blog @ http://lordofthegreendragons.blogspot.com/2009/03/origin-of-black-pudding-roots-in-ca.html for some details).
ReplyDeleteA more probable influence is the placement of parchment and vellum (but not papyrus ;) ) in The Glass Harmonica by Barbara Ninde Byfield (later reprinted as The Book of Weird); for some info/excerpts see JeffB's blog @ http://intothedarkdimension.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-book-of-weird.html
Allan.
Hmm, well I'm glad you brought that up, and it is news to me that CAS isn't in the AD&D DMG Appendix N. But isn't Rob Kuntz's point in that blog there that it's likewise really hard to account for black puddings without the CAS connection (irrespective of absence in the credits and bookshelf)?
DeleteI thought that Arneson was generally credited with creating the various cleanup crew monsters, rather than Gary.
DeleteAllan.
Interesting.
DeleteAbout the invention of the black pudding:
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Delightful, thanks for posting that! Makes it sound like the black pudding was the very first monster ever encountered in a dungeon adventure with Arneson.
DeleteInteresting, the serpent woman who seduced Bill sounds like it could be the first occurrence of the Lamia later featured in the Monster Manual. The MM version, in turn, sounds like it was heavily inspired by CAS's story The End of the Story. In the story, the lamia is a seductive serpent woman (as opposed to the hooved and lion-clawed version) who, aside from using illusions and enchantments, notably preys on generations of priests in an isolated abbey, frequently turning devout men away from their beliefs (compare with the wisdom damaging touch the lamia has). Gygax apparently wasn't familiar with CAS's work, but if Arneson created the monster, that would explain the connection.
DeleteGood recall! Deep cut in more ways than one.
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