tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post3978981495763110542..comments2024-03-26T15:35:56.004-04:00Comments on Delta's D&D Hotspot: Papyrus, Parchment, VellumDeltahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-8975207270765228842022-01-12T19:31:59.339-05:002022-01-12T19:31:59.339-05:00Good recall! Deep cut in more ways than one.Good recall! Deep cut in more ways than one.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-3305750014532583812022-01-07T18:57:39.929-05:002022-01-07T18:57:39.929-05:00Interesting, the serpent woman who seduced Bill so...Interesting, the serpent woman who seduced Bill sounds like it could be the first occurrence of the Lamia later featured in the Monster Manual. The MM version, in turn, sounds like it was heavily inspired by CAS's story The End of the Story. In the story, the lamia is a seductive serpent woman (as opposed to the hooved and lion-clawed version) who, aside from using illusions and enchantments, notably preys on generations of priests in an isolated abbey, frequently turning devout men away from their beliefs (compare with the wisdom damaging touch the lamia has). Gygax apparently wasn't familiar with CAS's work, but if Arneson created the monster, that would explain the connection.UCBPaladinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203153912365740602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-5555490290175179192014-04-14T12:28:59.595-04:002014-04-14T12:28:59.595-04:00Delightful, thanks for posting that! Makes it soun...Delightful, thanks for posting that! Makes it sound like the black pudding was the very first monster ever encountered in a dungeon adventure with Arneson.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-54391126817929936732014-04-13T16:19:00.164-04:002014-04-13T16:19:00.164-04:00About the invention of the black pudding:
http:/...About the invention of the black pudding: <br /><br />http://blackmoor.mystara.net/svenny.htmlporphyre77https://www.blogger.com/profile/07620350717226228078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-69849389928798746892014-04-12T22:18:41.513-04:002014-04-12T22:18:41.513-04:00Interesting.Interesting.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-29666542253461902502014-04-12T16:53:59.886-04:002014-04-12T16:53:59.886-04:00I thought that Arneson was generally credited with...I thought that Arneson was generally credited with creating the various cleanup crew monsters, rather than Gary.<br /><br />Allan.grodoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800184312511280050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-36790024184435377862014-04-12T16:18:10.411-04:002014-04-12T16:18:10.411-04:00Hmm, well I'm glad you brought that up, and it...Hmm, well I'm glad you brought that up, and it is news to me that CAS isn't in the AD&D DMG Appendix N. But isn't Rob Kuntz's point in that blog there that it's likewise really hard to account for black puddings without the CAS connection (irrespective of absence in the credits and bookshelf)? Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-24722093003064328662014-04-12T15:22:19.127-04:002014-04-12T15:22:19.127-04:00Unfortunately Gygax wasn't influenced directly...Unfortunately Gygax wasn't influenced directly by Smith, since he hadn't read him yet when D&D was published (and didn't in fact read him until c. 1980; see Kuntz's blog @ http://lordofthegreendragons.blogspot.com/2009/03/origin-of-black-pudding-roots-in-ca.html for some details). <br /><br />A more probable influence is the placement of parchment and vellum (but not papyrus ;) ) in The Glass Harmonica by Barbara Ninde Byfield (later reprinted as The Book of Weird); for some info/excerpts see JeffB's blog @ http://intothedarkdimension.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-book-of-weird.html <br /><br />Allan.grodoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800184312511280050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-54606219806592905602014-04-11T12:09:54.506-04:002014-04-11T12:09:54.506-04:00I vaguely remember that. So much less evocative.I vaguely remember that. So much less evocative.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-91755264821462948602014-04-11T08:57:41.401-04:002014-04-11T08:57:41.401-04:00Interestingly, the AD&D 2e DMG changes the mat...Interestingly, the AD&D 2e DMG changes the material from scrolls, replacing vellum with paper, and putting it before the others so they are still in alphabetic order.Antoniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258180992723371727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-5387888807769312692014-04-10T22:20:03.460-04:002014-04-10T22:20:03.460-04:00Very nice, I never thought of that before. (Althou...Very nice, I never thought of that before. (Although I wrote at least one song in college that was basically iterations on a certain word like that.) Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-44920009838272122692014-04-10T14:42:32.295-04:002014-04-10T14:42:32.295-04:00Good find. In addition to being pleasing to the ea...Good find. In addition to being pleasing to the ear in that order, 'papyrus, parchment and vellum' are also in aphabetical order.<br />I remember discovering that some of the tables in the DMG and other 1e books were, if I remember right, almost word for word the same as certain entries in Roget's Thesaurus... although it's been several years since I've seen my copy of Roget's so please double check me on that. I seem to remember that the 'level titles' in the AD&D books (Theurge, Adept, Sorceror, etc.) also appeared to be drawn from Roget's.Stefan Poaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192911890556534923noreply@blogger.com