More of the AD&D-intervention for places where Gygax fell down in the Dungeon Master's Guide. Today: Outdoor Movement.
Advanced D&D, Dungeon Master's Guide: Here's the Outdoor Movement table for AD&D.
Looks okay at first blush -- but try using it directly in-game. The numbers aren't evenly divisible by any common map scale (in fact, they can't be, except for a scale of 1 space = 1 mile). When I was playing with my books as-written all through my teenage years, I was constantly making little dots all over maps, trying to track party movement in fractional-hexes. Like if you were traveling with average gear through the woods of the World of Greyhawk (30-mile hexes), then I was making little 1/3-hex marks for every day of travel. Or if you were exploring the mountain wilds of Gygax's Dungeon Module S4: The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth (3.5 miles per hex) on heavy horses, then I was trying to make a mark every, um, 1.43 hexes or thereabouts. And worse: This doesn't even start to account for crossing multiple kinds of terrain in a single day, which technically would require pro-rating the movement in one region and calculating a proportion for what's left over for the next. Also: The terrain categories are abstracted, and looking at any map you've got a two-step process to convert terrain to general category to movement rate. And the carrying-weight burdens (given after the table) don't even synch up with the regular encumbrance categories seen elsewhere in the rules, either. It's a hot mess, I tell you!
Now let's look for the real origin of these movement rules...
Avalon Hill's Outdoor Survival Game: Lest we forget: Outdoor Survival is part of Original D&D's "Recommended Equipment" (listed even before dice and Chainmail, in fact). It's the basis and presumed adventuring locale for the wilderness rules in OD&D Vol-3. Here's the sheet that comes with that game to display the Mapboard Movement Chart (thanks to BoardGameGeek):
Aha, now that's a lot more useful for gameplay! The terrain types are immediately keyed to what you see on the map, and they're given in whole-number costs to enter a hex. It's so obvious, really. You never need to deal with partial-hex movement, and cross-terrain travel is handled by simply deducting each hex-entry from an overall move-per-day. Very simple and manageable, and scaled to the gameplay at hand.
Two notes: The daily move rate for people afoot in this game starts out at 6 hexes/day (and decreases as health is lost from lack of food/water). And the scale is 3 miles (1 league) per hex -- that's not directly stated anywhere, but it can be inferred from the rules text. ("The mapboard is a representation of approximately 13,200 square miles of wilderness..."; and since the whole board is 34×43 hexes, assuming 3 miles per hex gives us the area of about 102×129 = 13,158 square miles.)
Original D&D Vol-3, Underworld & Wilderness Adventures: Basically, the Original D&D Wilderness rules are built directly on top of Outdoor Survival (and refer and depend on its map and rules throughout). Here are some parts of that:
So the overall mechanic is the same as Outdoor Survival (with some smallish adjustments). All travel is given a daily move-budget, and it's expressed directly in terms of hexagons on the map used in play. "All terrain penalties are as stated in OUTDOOR SURVIVAL", with adjudication done by paying for movement as each hex is entered (although swamp and mountain trail movement are given different values here; and note that no one's mentioned hills yet). Now that's immediately playable.
Also note also that the scale is different ("about 5 miles"), which is likely an intentional change, although it's not explained why (perhaps to cover more territory while adventuring?). It's approximately a doubling of scale, and the man-on-foot travel rate is correspondingly halved (3 hexes, instead of Outdoor Survival's base 6 hexes).
Summary: To come full circle, we can now return to the DMG movement chart and understand what's really happening there. Let's make an alternate view of it: Start with the "normal" move rates, make columns that just divide by 1, 2, and 3 respectively (as per move costs in Outdoor Survival and OD&D above), and then compare:
So those are pretty much the same (i.e., that's where the DMG numbers really come from), excusing some slight rounding in a different direction here and there. With one noticeable exception: The "very rugged" rates for movement on horseback are all further reduced a great deal, which is a fairly realistic handling of how horses fail to be useful for mountain-climbing purposes and the like. (I like this latter point, even though it was left out of later editions like B/X and 3E; I honor the idea in Book of War by doubling all move penalties for mounted troops).
Anyway, good to know that the Outdoor Survival movement costs are still "lurking" under the cover of the DMG (in fact, that's what most of the chart really boils down to). But the AD&D Outdoor Movement table is still not directly usable in-game, because it's not scaled to any particular map that we might use in play. The truth is, Gygax actually acknowledges this, but it's so curt that I always missed it as a young man (plus: it suffers from the table-distracts-from-text problem). Look closely one more time (DMG p. 58):
Right. So the DMG Outdoor Movement table isn't really intended to be used directly in play in the first place. You're supposed to "adapt them to the scale of your campaign maps accordingly. Some variation in movement rate is justifiable..." Or more directly stated: Take this as raw source material, and make your own table by dividing the numbers by your hex size in miles, rounding to the nearest whole number. Wow, that seems super-important now!
Recommended: The AD&D DMG Outdoor Movement table is acceptable as a starting point for wilderness play (it seems in-line with real-world research), but you have to do some derivation work. As we just stated: Divide the numbers by your hex scale and round off. Just do that with the "normal" terrain numbers, and in play assess costs of 2 hexes for rugged terrain (woods/hills) and 3 hexes for very rugged (mountains/swamp); payment is made as each hex is entered. Horses should be further penalized in very rugged terrain, perhaps most simply by just prohibiting movement altogether (unless map hexes are very finely grained).
For example, at the start of this week, I made a large-scale campaign map at a scale of 15 miles/5 leagues per hex (in fact: doing so is what motivated the series for this week). Here are the appropriate derived movement rates: 4 hexes/day for light horse, 3 for medium, 2 for foot/heavy horse/cart or wagon. Movement off-trail into a woods or hills space costs 2 points (i.e., halved; 1 hex on foot etc.). Travel through very rugged terrain -- like mountain climbing or a dread swamp -- is not appropriate at this particular scale, and should be shifted to a more zoomed-in map, with its own characteristic movement table (again taking the DMG table as a starting point).
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Coming from a board wargame background, I started using a wargame-like movement point system as soon as I realized you could translate the concept to RPGs (embarrasingly late in life).
ReplyDeleteI remember being frustrated by how to run wilderness adventures when I was a kid. The movement rate tables in the DMG (and even in the Cook Expert book) were part of it, I think. A larger part was the lack of solid examples of how to run a day or a week of adventuring on an overland map.
I felt fine running dungeons when I was young because I had concrete examples to fall back on (this goes all the way back to OD&D, with its "playlet" format that became standard), and fairly well-defined rules for adjudication. Wilderness adventuring had no such equivalent.
Cook Expert, for example, gave an equipment list a party might draw up for an overland treck and provided a sample wilderness map. You also got some rules for getting lost, etc. But there was little help for the newbie in determining just how everything was supposed to work together. This wasn't just limited to how to reconcile movement rates with partial hexes; what effect would not having sufficient rations have, for example. The questions just seemed to crop up for me, and it was intimidating. I did not feel comfortable running wilderness treks for years because of this; I'd handwave travel instead (with maybe a set-piece combat or encounter with merchants or something), which was never really satisfying to me.
Well said!
Delete^ Ken, that's a really excellent point. Thanks for writing that.
ReplyDeleteDoes 3e or 4e even have rules for overland movement? Ship to ship combat? It's like character creation gets more and more complex and the things the characters can participate in (outside of DM fiat narrative play) dissapears.
ReplyDeleteWhat good is making your character a super detailed swashbuckling-pirate with a PrC ship captain if there are no way for a dm to do anything but "hand wave" all the action?
/rantoff
Thanks for this post. It inspired me to work out the wilderness movement costs assuming B/X movement rates and six mile hexes:
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UWS Guy -- You're close to the mark. 3E does have daily overland movement, but it's not terribly well thought-out (e.g., since everything takes the same move modifiers, horses are still faster than footmen in mountains & swamps). As I recall, there are no standard wilderness encounter tables, nor any ship combat section in the core books. (4E I haven't a clue about.)
ReplyDeleteBrendan -- Great post! I'm glad I could be of some help. :-)
I was looking at this topic today and noticed that on page 102 of the AD&D Players Handbook that there is another completely different set of rules for overland movement that match the ones from the Cook Expert set.
ReplyDelete^ Yeah, that is a good point ("Each 1" equals the number of miles a character or creature can travel in one half-day's trekking."). It's kinda-sorta on the same scale as the DMG numbers (granted "normal" terrain), but you're right that the specifics are different by a bit.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting post... in '75/'76 in south Louisiana we weren't using Avalon Hill's game (and I only recall the very back of Chainmail, by the time I was DM'ing it was all Dungeon and ACS) so this look at "Outdoor Survival" has been very illuminating as we played the Phil Barker rules for miniatures so Chainmail never got used for mass combats or historical battles.
ReplyDeleteSo... have you seen The Fantasy Trip?
S.J. looks like he flipped the script... like actually took the AD&D sequence and reversed it... thought you might be curious if you haven't noticed that one.
Interesting! No, I haven't had a chance to ever see Steve Jackson's The Fantasy Trip... so that's educational for me to hear how that's related, thanks!
DeleteEven within first edition, the World of Greyhawk Glossography has its own set of movement rates for terrain type, but with only two weight categories...
ReplyDeleteFor a big hex (12 miles), you don't need to break the hex into smaller ones to make it work. It's easier if you just track your "progress" inside the hex. Crossing a hex to a far side would cost 12 miles, and to a adjacent side, 8 or something. I recomment this series of posts: https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/17308/roleplaying-games/hexcrawl
ReplyDeleteI tried that in the distant past and was very unhappy with it. How is that progress tracked? Paper record sheet? Little dots at fractional distance on the hex? (That's what my Greyhawk maps look like.) Much better to embrace the discrete nature of the hexes and have a physical chit or something clearly show the party position, IMO. If the hexes aren't discrete locations, then discard the hexes.
Delete"it seems in-line with real-world research"
ReplyDeleteWell it maybe does if the 'mounted' rates assume you have several horses. No one is riding a single horse for 60 miles/day for very long, it'd drop dead. Even with a change of horses I don't think you could keep up 60/day for more than a few days, unless the horses were waiting at waystations a la Pony Express. With a single horse the light foot rate of 30 miles/day looks about right.
30 miles/day fits with 18th-19th century foot travel rates; medieval road rates tended to be a lot lower due to poorer footwear & muddy roads. Roman roads & sandals did allow some great march rates though.
I suppose it depends on what the time-scale is here. E.g., there's a modern competitive event of "Long-distance horse riding" where a single horse is ridden for 50 or even 100 miles in a day, with regular veterinary checks to make sure the animal isn't being over-taxed. So certainly 60 miles in one day is reasonable and commonly done. How many days in a row you can stack that is a legitimate possible gap in the rules.
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