tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post9174881342858371908..comments2024-03-26T15:35:56.004-04:00Comments on Delta's D&D Hotspot: Spells Through The Ages – TelekinesisDeltahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-89392661090393216682016-08-16T23:00:31.289-04:002016-08-16T23:00:31.289-04:00I agree that the spell is pretty vague in terms li...I agree that the spell is pretty vague in terms like that. Only the the 2E+ versions clearly indicate that someone can throw more than one object at a time.<br /><br />Personally, I'm really not in favor of interpretations that allow someone to haul around a barrel of 100 arrows and shoot them all at once with telekinesis. That just seems cheesy and unbalanced to my reckoning.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-9978190726057746922016-08-16T09:56:42.811-04:002016-08-16T09:56:42.811-04:00Curious as to the limit on object number... Say if...Curious as to the limit on object number... Say if i wanted to use the spell to hurl an entire quiver of arrows or guide a barrage of throwing knives. (assuming my characters level permits the weight) or would i be required to cast it per object? I feel the spell could be rather usefull if used to manipulate mass amount of objects with little weight or used for precise targeting. Perhaps maybe even combine it with an object that removes the concentration penalty and use it during combat to move an enemys shield or say move a log to block an arrow. The possibilities seem ratger plentiful or am i missing something? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17779764452012255990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-28455549090404260142014-08-27T13:11:37.896-04:002014-08-27T13:11:37.896-04:00Cool, thanks!Cool, thanks!Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-13485067217979393732014-08-27T13:10:47.351-04:002014-08-27T13:10:47.351-04:00Hmmm. Well there's an interesting point of int...Hmmm. Well there's an interesting point of interpretation in whether the spell can affect a whole batch of objects at a time (bundle of arrows, or tornado of swords). In places the spell text says "object" and in others "objects". Is the plural meant over multiple castings, or from round to round, or all at once? Certainly the spell is more powerful if allowed, although I rarely see that interpretation.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-37804525524640145392014-08-27T00:30:40.020-04:002014-08-27T00:30:40.020-04:00Worth seeing. It's available on Netflix. Howev...Worth seeing. It's available on Netflix. However, if you do watch the first 5-10 minutes of the very first episode you will *NEVER* want to get into a commercial airliner again... The show is pretty cool with a lot of "out there" science (hence the name, "Fringe") and neat premises. The characters are pretty good too, especially the "mad" scientist (who quite literally is, given years of taking LSD...) Lots of fun!Angantyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07583089145943203408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-3573016068869888082014-08-22T16:34:01.145-04:002014-08-22T16:34:01.145-04:00I also essentially made TK an every level spell. A...I also essentially made TK an every level spell. A wizard could memorize it as a 1st level spell and only move 25lbs, 2nd level 50lbs, 3rd level 75lbs, etc. or memorize it as a 5th level spell and have the extended weight limit. <br /><br />At the time the thought was that it made it more useful without making it overpowered.Monkapotomushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15863829877299943297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-26819394910366287022014-08-22T16:29:56.377-04:002014-08-22T16:29:56.377-04:00Between my players and I we used TK a lot. It was ...Between my players and I we used TK a lot. It was one of our favorite spells!<br /><br />It saw a lot of uses in sieges, large combats, and when more subtle activities were needed. Those bundles of arrows or barrels of oil became very deadly to mooks when a wizard uses TK.<br /><br />Also, I believe one of the beholder's eyes allows for 1,000lbs of constant TK which I used once for a literal tornado of swords.Monkapotomushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15863829877299943297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-60327348825797920292014-08-21T23:38:23.929-04:002014-08-21T23:38:23.929-04:00Ha! Nice++.Ha! Nice++.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-89524666545011903682014-08-20T00:52:09.911-04:002014-08-20T00:52:09.911-04:00Oh, wow. Haven't seen that show, but that seem...Oh, wow. Haven't seen that show, but that seems like a great use. Seems like our D&D spell would need to increase the allowed weight & speed to make that feasible.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-57161926469268893442014-08-20T00:51:02.851-04:002014-08-20T00:51:02.851-04:00Ooh, geez, that's super nice. I do think that ...Ooh, geez, that's super nice. I do think that generally smashing one enemy into another should be one of the better uses.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-55752654677692038092014-08-19T23:25:44.231-04:002014-08-19T23:25:44.231-04:00Other interesting telekinesis usage: certain episo...Other interesting telekinesis usage: certain episodes of the show Fringe feature telekinesis, in particular the series finale wherein the Big Bad Guy (TM) gets literally crushed by a flung car. Not bad...Angantyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07583089145943203408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-65742370168353319742014-08-19T15:28:58.452-04:002014-08-19T15:28:58.452-04:00I remember using it once to pick up a black puddin...I remember using it once to pick up a black pudding and throw it at a cockatrice, taking out both of them. Pretty sure we weren't carefully calculating the probable weight of a black pudding, though.Joshua Macyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838733328132877699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-54608127591362878802014-08-19T13:20:37.055-04:002014-08-19T13:20:37.055-04:00Yes, I agree with that. Good thoughts.Yes, I agree with that. Good thoughts.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-7752038644156726002014-08-19T08:21:30.319-04:002014-08-19T08:21:30.319-04:00The Comedy sort of stuff Ozymandias talks about ar...The Comedy sort of stuff Ozymandias talks about are pretty easily done with Unseen Servant (a spell that has seen a lot of use in my campaigns). I like to think of X-Men (Magneto and Kitty Pryde) with telekinesis and could see using a modified falling damage mechanic for characters being hurled against walls etc.ligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00652431558688176341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-11811483010807541672014-08-19T01:57:20.484-04:002014-08-19T01:57:20.484-04:00Yeah, I think that extending the duration and allo...Yeah, I think that extending the duration and allowing different objects to be moved from round to round is a great idea and really makes the spell resemble other fantasy sources a lot better. I'd be all over that. <br /><br />The stealing items -- with a save -- is a pretty good use of the spell. Although I wouldn't want to limit it to that, I also want fairly large objects like a person to subject to being thrown through the air. (Of course, neither spell components nor mage hand are at issue in my OD&D games.)Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-69098848859453214342014-08-19T01:54:27.822-04:002014-08-19T01:54:27.822-04:00Oh, that's a great scene. But obviously very u...Oh, that's a great scene. But obviously very unusual.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-47482385555814901042014-08-18T18:00:46.016-04:002014-08-18T18:00:46.016-04:00It's odd that I've never seen my players t...It's odd that I've never seen my players take advantage of this spell considering that - now that I've read each version - I would allow theft (possibly with a saving throw). Enemy wizard casting spells? Steal his spell components. Ogre wielding a club? Steal his club (and drop it on his head). Bard playing an annoying song? Undo his belt buckle and watch his pants fall. And if it's an issue of, "Mage hand can do all that and it's a low level spell," then modify telekinesis so that you can get more use out of it. (For example, make the duration independent of the object, so that the caster can manipulate multiple objects so long as the spell lasts, but never more than one per round.)Ozymandiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01065642299277380465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-57598901670014529882014-08-18T14:48:16.546-04:002014-08-18T14:48:16.546-04:00I vaguely remember using it to get out of a jail c...I vaguely remember using it to get out of a jail cell once, by telekinetically moving the keys from the wall and into our cell. I also remember trying to keep some non-component spells in mind just in case I was stripped of spell components.Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518234031222836203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-25955051405502909852014-08-18T11:45:52.131-04:002014-08-18T11:45:52.131-04:00^ That's interesting that both you guys used i...^ That's interesting that both you guys used it primarily in a modified "psionics" format. I do agree that I really wish the spell better simulated those kinds of heavy-hitting movie effects (if maybe not the gibbly stuff). Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-54986289042300556972014-08-18T10:35:56.217-04:002014-08-18T10:35:56.217-04:00My own character used this one a lot, back in the ...My own character used this one a lot, back in the day. But he was a psionic, not a magician.<br /><br />This was AD&D 1E, early 80's, and most of our game effects were derived from the plethora of sic-fi films featuring folks with "mental powers." Think things like Firestarter (or any Steven King fiction), Scanners, and Zapped! The latter (silly as the film was) was especially inspiring to my character as we ruled the character could do things like "suck the air out of a person" creating a vacuum, and other gross/deadly effects.<br /><br />(you'll note that 1E does NOT define damage beyond saying TK can be used for creating "deadly weapons;" also there was no "minimum weight;" how much do you need to move to pluck someone's eyeballs from their skull?)<br /><br />We tended to reward creative use of magic and such. My character's use of TK was more often as a "veiled threat" than actual, practical use, BTW.<br /><br />I don't remember using anything but a big-ass axe when I played Diablo.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-53293112375141979552014-08-18T09:42:18.490-04:002014-08-18T09:42:18.490-04:00This falls into the spells I took away from Mages ...This falls into the spells I took away from Mages and gave to Mentalists "psionics". Also much like ESP and Claivoyance, it seems misnamed for what most players' THINK the spell does based on name.<br />That said, I think Mage Hand does well for basic TK, and maybe emulate something like "Ring of the Ram" for the big shove type power.<br />Sorry, can't help you on Diablo.Baquieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357103428591599364noreply@blogger.com