tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post1132322387606140324..comments2024-03-26T15:35:56.004-04:00Comments on Delta's D&D Hotspot: Origins of Thieves Using Scrolls - Gray MouserDeltahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-3833272804887639242011-05-17T15:26:07.461-04:002011-05-17T15:26:07.461-04:00John -- I do think the same can be said here. The ...John -- I do think the same can be said here. The Mouser has his eyes closed as he speaks the spell, and the writing remains once he's done. Furthermore, it's left ambiguous that the problem is an actual miscast/reversal, whereas with Cugel that part at least is made explicit.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-63179186524726252872011-05-17T15:12:36.538-04:002011-05-17T15:12:36.538-04:00I think this is clearly the origin of the "th...I think this is clearly the origin of the "thieves can use scrolls but may get the reverse effect" rule. Cugel reverses spells, but he's not using a scroll when he does so; he appears to have memorized them incorrectly.<br /><br />Word verification: Snessio (obviously a denizen of the Dying Earth)John Harper Brinegarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592827787099084705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-54661872238736524242011-05-16T10:39:37.622-04:002011-05-16T10:39:37.622-04:00Supposedly, even at the first inception in 1937, L...Supposedly, even at the first inception in 1937, Leiber & Fischer were working on a Lankhmar-based wargame together. A much-simplified version was released by TSR in 1976. Both those guys wrote some stuff for Dragon, so they were clearly well-aligned with the whole RPG thing.<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lankhmar#Lankhmar_in_games" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lankhmar#Lankhmar_in_games</a>Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2170237526012357403.post-15133813522034422502011-05-16T10:28:32.729-04:002011-05-16T10:28:32.729-04:00I also love that this story involves the concept o...I also love that this story involves the concept of "levels", as hinted in the whole "first rank/lower rank" business. I know Lieber had some contact with TSR back in the early days, I wonder how much gaming influenced the ideas in this story. I'm not 100% sure it did, knowing the idea for this one came in 1936, but it fuels speculation...BigFellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052419088140204154noreply@blogger.com